Sunday, 22 July 2018

Acidic Alkaline Balance - pH

Alison Bamford shared a link to the group: Principia Carnivora.
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Do you have an acidic body...?
ACIDICBODY.COM
Acidic Body - a nutritional imbalance epidemic
An ACIDIC BODY is one of the most under-appreciated, yet the most significant health condition markers that reflects a metabolic capacity of a human body.
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Lauren Mongrain That’s not how this works.
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John Pavao "The definitive ‘normal’ pH for blood is 7.4. Give or take very, very little. I promise you that if you are walking around, functioning, talking, conscious, your pH is 7.4 or very close to it (meaning maybe 7.38, 7.41, etc.).

Your body is going through constant and incredible lengths to maintain this. It does it via your breathing; the CO2 you breathe out every few seconds rids the body of acid, which is why when you hold your breath you turn red and pass out — the rise in acidity will, that quickly, dilate your blood vessels and create internal imbalances that make consciousness impossible. When you hyperventilate, the opposite happens; you lose too much acid to balance out the alkaline and the suddenly alkaline (higher) pH is every bit as incompatible with consciousness, which is why you get lightheaded and will soon faint in this case as well. The human body will not tolerate an out-of-line pH in either direction; the cells and metabolic processes cannot function."

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Barbara Salainen "Protein based diets cause fiber consumption deficiencies"
What? How? 
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Ryan Laurent Dumb
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Ai Qi Rhy The entire acid/alkaline diet thing was based on a misinterpretation of one line of a study. It's even explained in Wikipedia. You interstitial fluids and Lymph system are also fiercely defended at the proper pH same as blood. They exchange fluid all the time, they are not isolated, so they must remain the same. Seriously, that is not how it works whatsoever!
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Luke Tate lactic acidosis, ketoacidosis are real, im not sure if that is relevant
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Alison Bamford Yes, they are fiercely defended - if your buffering systems are working optimally. Mine aren’t - and probably haven’t been for years.

8 years of LCHF & 2 years of ZC did me no favours in that regard.
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Ai Qi Rhy Acute acidosis of any kind is an emergency and you can and will die without emergency treatment. You can not live in a chronic state of either nor any other acidic state. The range of survival for humans (and most life on Earth) is 7.35 to 7.45. Yours does work or you are dead. Sorry you are not getting relief with LC woe, but I will not concede facts. For more information, please read a biology text book. Pay special attention on how all proteins denature when out of the narrow range. I hope you can find real answers.
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Luke Tate Im not arguing against you just dropping an explanation as to why i dont eat carbs anymoreManage
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Craig Berndt Isagenix peddlers love this one
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John Cunningham pH, blood-type, deuterium. Where would we be without these posts . . .
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Alison Bamford I hate the fact that so many of you think you are so superior. I’ve been there & bought the damn T-shirt. 

Whilst I love meat, my buffering systems have not been adequate enough for it, and the last 10 years of LCHF/ZC has made things far worse.…See More
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Magnus Eriksson The thing is... you can't have an acidic body. If you had, you'd be dead.
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Alison Bamford Magnus Eriksson yes you can. Acidic blood no, acidic body yes. And when it gets too acidic there is nothing left to buffer the blood & you’re dead. 

I can feel the acidity burning in my tissues.
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Deborah Schippers Alison Bamford I follow a guy who does facial analysis. And he is quite brilliant in this. He works with cell/tissue callts. I look up what he he is saying about acidity because it's mention quite often. On his group people place 5 photos of themselves from the face from different angles and the he can tell what the defincies are by facial signs. I know blackheads and big pores are signs of acidity. OK this what he say: Blackheads – A Product of Acidity

Throughout our lifetimes, many of us will experience blackhead acne and while the focus seems to be on cleansing the skin or removing the individual blackheads themselves with special blackhead removal tools, we rarely consider the actual cause, or what it is a sign of.

In the world of minerals, blackheads are the result of a deficiency in sodium phosphate, our main nutritional pH regulator, and sodium chloride, another pH regulator, and water distribution aid (in relationship to the skin).

If you have blackheads, take that as a warning sign that your body pH level is too low and you are running acidic. 

Blackheads are most often diet related, and not particularly due to metabolic issues such as metabolic acidosis, which is fairly rare, but the term gets thrown around an awful lot within our community.

If you have blackheads, you need to correct your body pH, and the two minerals that I mention above, in sodium phosphate and sodium chloride will be your best options to do so.
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Kevin Geary Pure nonsense
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Alison Bamford I don’t get blackheads. I never get blackheads, although maybe I used to get them as a teenager when my skin was soft. Can’t remember. I am pretty sure this acid system and clogged lymph has been present since I was a teenager as I’ve been struggling with low energy for nigh on 50 years.....
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Julie Baldus Gosh they look really unwell don't they! 😂😂😂
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Guillaume Kalfon sh*t they lost all their skin!! Help!!
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Gina Cormier There are certain areas of the body that are acidic and should be like your stomach.....
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Alison Bamford Of course. It’s when the areas that shouldn’t be acidic are that you are in trouble....
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Ai Qi Rhy The stomach is protected by a thick mucousal layer that has to be constantly renewed because acid is so damaging to proteins. If it leaks you get localized irritation and ulcers. The stomach has acid to DIGEST proteins eaten for that very reason. Also it may be relevant to mention the PH scale is a logarithmic one, so what looks like a tiny variance in the number is in fact a change by a factor of 10. To be able to survive in an acidic state would be to *Literally* to defy the physics of molecular bonds.
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Razvan Florentin Popescu what the hell is that picture. by what logic would one use that ..
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Alyson Bendzinski There is zero truth to this.
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Alyson Bendzinski Diet will not change the pH of the body.
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Gabor Erdosi I haven’t read the article in the OP, but all the comments that claim diet has no effect on the buffering characteristics of the body obviously are the result of poor understanding of physiology.
The real question is not what pH the blood is, but HOW it is maintained and what price one may pay for chronic buffering need.
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Estimation of the net acid load of the diet of ancestral preagricultural Homo sapiens and their hominid ancestors | The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition | Oxford Academic
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Gabor Erdosi An Evolutionary Perspective on the Acid–Base Effects of Diet
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Taylor & Francis Group
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Gabor Erdosi Adverse Effects of Sodium Chloride on Bone in the Aging Human Population Resulting from Habitual Consumption of Typical American Diets
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Adverse Effects of Sodium Chloride on Bone in the Aging Human Population Resulting from Habitual Consumption of Typical American Diets | The Journal of Nutrition | Oxford Academic
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Ai Qi Rhy The original poster is claiming her blood pH is outside the normal range, chronically for decades, and defending that claim repeatedly - hence the responses. No one doubts she has symptoms of something.
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Gabor Erdosi Ai Qi Rhy 
Subclinical chronic metabolic acidosis is a thing, many researchers argue. While blood pH stays in the official normal range, it is consistently in the lower normal range. However, the price one has to pay over years of being in this state is likely very high.
Just checked the OP, and although the scientific background is not laid out well, what I’ve added above should provide a clearer picture.
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Bastian Ingerle Gabor Erdosi do u have a comprehensive theory about this whole pH topic?
May u lay it out!?
Its confusing, people even argue if urine pH reflects tissue pH and further, what would be desirable and so on and so forth haha 
Many different theories make sense to some extend (some more, some less) but r often completely contradictory. And nobody really seems to be able to proof anything. Everyone just presents concepts.
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Gabor Erdosi Bastian Ingerle 
I believe this review contains a lot of good references. If you factor in that non-essential, low nutrient density grains, salt and sugars should be emphasized over animal protein, it’s a good starting place.

Dietary Influence on Body Fluid Acid-Base and Volume Balance: The Deleterious “Norm” Furthers and Cloaks Subclinical Pathophysiology
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Dietary Influence on Body Fluid Acid-Base and Volume Balance: The Deleterious “Norm” Furthers and Cloaks Subclinical Pathophysiology
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