My Note: Skipping breakfast may be a good way to control diabetes? Why are glucose levels high in the morning, why do they test glucose levels in the morning?
Few people below mention that they feel better during the day if they skip breakfast.
Insight: In earlier times, in Indian villages, people did not have breakfast? Or did they? People used to have conjee (saldi annam in Telugu)
Even in France, people don't have much for breakfast. They just have a piece of bread.
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Esmée La Fleur shared a link to the group: Principia Carnivora.
Skipping breakfast raises blood glucose in Type 2 diabetics. (http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/38/10/1820)
Shared by Raymund Edwards in his group Optimal Ketogenic Living.
Raymund Edwards Sun sets and rises and so does metabolism
circadian clocks are the same whether we eat or fast or eat fat or sugar
when we eat makes a difference because we run on clocks
keto people get jet lag just the same - eating at the wrong time is the same effect on metabolism.
Ken Gordon - I also know some severe Type 2s who have done a masterful job with control, a1cs in the 4s, and basically eat very low carb, high(-ish adequate etc.) protein meals once, maybe twice / day.
Esmée La Fleur If people are experiencing high A1c and high glucose on ZC, this is something to keep in mind and experiment with in my opinion
Todd Garrison Lex Rooker had consistently high A1c. He ate only one meal per day. He was not troubled by the marker, and I don't recall his blood glucose being a problem. He did not have diabetes.
Judy Graham-Taber As far as glucose spikes, someone in another group had a theory. Waking up causes cortisol that spikes insulin, breakfast spikes insulin, and exercise spikes insulin. So he was thinking, wake up, work out, eat breakfast, then the body burns through all that at one time leaving more time for fasting benefits until your next meal. I don't know if anyone tested this but sounds interesting.
Celeste Kelsey "Everyone has a dawn phenomenon. Otherwise they’d be too weak to get breakfast. But in people without diabetes, insulin levels also increase to handle the extra glucose. People with diabetes can’t increase insulin levels that much, so their early morning blood glucose levels can rise dramatically." (https://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/blog/controlling-the-dawn-phenomenon/)
Hanna Achepohl If I eat breakfast I am hungry all day and eat all day which spikes my insulin. If I just eat dinner (one meal a day) I am fine. I have been able to keep my blood sugars in the non diabetic range since 2008 by eating this way except for a few years when I got off track.
John Clary My n=1 experience is that I was type 2 diabetic for almost 20 years, on pills and injections and still had trouble controlling my blood glucose. April 2016 I found ZC and intermittent fasting. Blood glucose normalized in weeks and I've been off meds for over a year. Glucose and A1C now completely normal. Just from cutting out carbs and IF. I don't understand why the ADA continues to advocate a high carb diet for diabetics. It just doesn't make sense.
Ken Gordon It's fascinating to read stories like this from people who are 20 year veterans, my own more limited experience tends to indicate to me that intermittent fasting helps a lot. And periods of more extended fasting (a full day or two) help bring blood sugar down to perfectly normal levels.
Susan Henderson It does not increase mine at all since being ZC.
Susan Henderson Most I believe may need to eat more often and eat to satiety long enough on ZC for their sugars to stop spiking. This has obviously worked for many.
Kim McAughey Kline I get higher readings in the morning too. Usually 110 or so but when I've tested before dinner it's in the 89s. I don't get high postperandial readings and don't get hypoglycemic episodes.
Ken Gordon I suspect that ZC folk getting consistently high readings may simply not be making enough insulin anymore. A Type 1 (or very burned out Type 2) could eat ZC, fast for days etc. and still need to inject insulin or BG would inexorably rise.
Jacki Fraise Skipping breakfast keeps my BG in the normal range. Even if I eat eggs and bacon for breakfast, my BG will go up 20 points. I skip brakfast and don't eat till 11am if not later, my body prefers it.
Source: Facebook discussion on Principa Carnivora group - Sept 5, 2017
Few people below mention that they feel better during the day if they skip breakfast.
Insight: In earlier times, in Indian villages, people did not have breakfast? Or did they? People used to have conjee (saldi annam in Telugu)
Even in France, people don't have much for breakfast. They just have a piece of bread.
***
Esmée La Fleur shared a link to the group: Principia Carnivora.
Skipping breakfast raises blood glucose in Type 2 diabetics. (http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/38/10/1820)
Shared by Raymund Edwards in his group Optimal Ketogenic Living.
Raymund Edwards Sun sets and rises and so does metabolism
circadian clocks are the same whether we eat or fast or eat fat or sugar
when we eat makes a difference because we run on clocks
keto people get jet lag just the same - eating at the wrong time is the same effect on metabolism.
Ken Gordon - I also know some severe Type 2s who have done a masterful job with control, a1cs in the 4s, and basically eat very low carb, high(-ish adequate etc.) protein meals once, maybe twice / day.
Esmée La Fleur If people are experiencing high A1c and high glucose on ZC, this is something to keep in mind and experiment with in my opinion
Todd Garrison Lex Rooker had consistently high A1c. He ate only one meal per day. He was not troubled by the marker, and I don't recall his blood glucose being a problem. He did not have diabetes.
Judy Graham-Taber As far as glucose spikes, someone in another group had a theory. Waking up causes cortisol that spikes insulin, breakfast spikes insulin, and exercise spikes insulin. So he was thinking, wake up, work out, eat breakfast, then the body burns through all that at one time leaving more time for fasting benefits until your next meal. I don't know if anyone tested this but sounds interesting.
Celeste Kelsey "Everyone has a dawn phenomenon. Otherwise they’d be too weak to get breakfast. But in people without diabetes, insulin levels also increase to handle the extra glucose. People with diabetes can’t increase insulin levels that much, so their early morning blood glucose levels can rise dramatically." (https://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/blog/controlling-the-dawn-phenomenon/)
Hanna Achepohl If I eat breakfast I am hungry all day and eat all day which spikes my insulin. If I just eat dinner (one meal a day) I am fine. I have been able to keep my blood sugars in the non diabetic range since 2008 by eating this way except for a few years when I got off track.
John Clary My n=1 experience is that I was type 2 diabetic for almost 20 years, on pills and injections and still had trouble controlling my blood glucose. April 2016 I found ZC and intermittent fasting. Blood glucose normalized in weeks and I've been off meds for over a year. Glucose and A1C now completely normal. Just from cutting out carbs and IF. I don't understand why the ADA continues to advocate a high carb diet for diabetics. It just doesn't make sense.
Ken Gordon It's fascinating to read stories like this from people who are 20 year veterans, my own more limited experience tends to indicate to me that intermittent fasting helps a lot. And periods of more extended fasting (a full day or two) help bring blood sugar down to perfectly normal levels.
Susan Henderson It does not increase mine at all since being ZC.
Susan Henderson Most I believe may need to eat more often and eat to satiety long enough on ZC for their sugars to stop spiking. This has obviously worked for many.
Kim McAughey Kline I get higher readings in the morning too. Usually 110 or so but when I've tested before dinner it's in the 89s. I don't get high postperandial readings and don't get hypoglycemic episodes.
Ken Gordon I suspect that ZC folk getting consistently high readings may simply not be making enough insulin anymore. A Type 1 (or very burned out Type 2) could eat ZC, fast for days etc. and still need to inject insulin or BG would inexorably rise.
Jacki Fraise Skipping breakfast keeps my BG in the normal range. Even if I eat eggs and bacon for breakfast, my BG will go up 20 points. I skip brakfast and don't eat till 11am if not later, my body prefers it.
Source: Facebook discussion on Principa Carnivora group - Sept 5, 2017
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