Health Summary: Fermented Meat - raw meat

Friday 16 June 2017

Fermented Meat - raw meat

Stephen Tallman to Principia Carnivora

Yesterday at 6:56am

One more question for tonight. Has anybody had experience with "highmeat". High meat is fermented meat that can be kept for months. I have heard that the bacteria create b-vitamins, k-2 etc... People also say they experience a state of euphoria after consumption. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Amy Menke As the curing vs. fermenting article above states, there is a fine line between fermentation and "spoilage" of meat. Technically, "high" meat is deemed to be "rotten" and made by preserving it in sealed mason jars, but people still eat it without issu...See More

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Yesterday at 8:21am

Jill Moser Tried it once, didn't notice anything. Others have though. I remember one person who met him said he looked healthier than anyone she has ever met. His eyes were so clear, skin was clear and his physique was very strong and muscular. I wonder if high meat could make SIBO worse or better.

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Yesterday at 8:30amEdited

Amy Menke Yeah, I don't feel "high" when I eat my liver. (But I've never done drugs either, so maybe I don't know what I'm looking for

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Yesterday at 8:30am

Jill Moser I have and it is not something I want to experience again lol.

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Yesterday at 8:35am

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Lala Hutch During Steffansson's time with the Inuit, he avoided the "high"meat and fish for a long time. Eventually he tried it and loved it. I am very interested in learning more about fermenting meat safely to try it.

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Yesterday at 8:38am

Amy Menke Yes, definitely do your own research and use your own judgement. If I find anymore information on the topic, I'll be sure to pass it along.

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Yesterday at 8:42am

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Rick Passmore I love it, I get a nice "feel good" after eating some for a little while, usually take it in the morning then soak up some sun.

I generally let it breathe once a day, then test it at 3-4 weeks and see if it's ready. From there eat a small piece once every couple days.

More info here: http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/.../high-meat-recipe.../

And here the latest batch I put in the fridge.

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Yesterday at 9:01am

Evans Dealio Have you been eating high meat very long? If so, what cuts do you prefer?

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Richard Price Hi! Meat!

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Rick Passmore Evans Dealio, only a couple times since about October last year. I've basically just been using beef liver, haven't ventured outside of it yet.

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Alicia Hall This intrigues me and scares me all at the same time lol

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Yesterday at 10:46am

Evans Dealio I am feeling the same way.

I'm already contemplating how this will play out in my house.... me trying to make this and what my husband is going to say!

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Yesterday at 5:35pm

Jessica Aaron Yup, same here!!! My husband would be like, "what the hell are you doing?!"

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Steve Littler I've eaten it several times prepared the way Aajonus Vonderplanitz prescribed. I had to hold my nose and do it outside and eat just small bits and swallow quickly to get it down. I believe it gave me a vitamin B type of buzz and felt like it strengthen...See More

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Yesterday at 11:19am

Yvonne Homewood Interesting, I never thought of trying to ferment meat. I can't tolerate fermented vegetables, it give me a bad stomach but I started to make my own kefir. I like beef liver and blue cheese, you are starting to convince me Amy

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Yesterday at 12:11pm

Jean Paul Gové At most I've left meat uncovered in my fridge for a week or two. It dries up and obtains a cheesy taste. I'll try proper high meat eventually.

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Yesterday at 12:15pm

Georgina Jewkes I considered trying this, but decided it would be rather unwise with histamine issues. Fascinating topic though.

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Yesterday at 2:52pm

Jessica Szabo intrigued. Maybe one day I'll get there.. I'm still working on trying raw and liver. I think I need to hit those milestones first

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Amy Tuggle I need euphoria where can I get this stuff!

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Joel Nieminen Westerhult Take meat (beef heart tastes best imo), put in jar, 50% air and 50% meat. Air for a few seconds every three days. Store wherever. When it's 1 month it's ready. After two months even stronger. Eat small chunks every day before eating raw meat ( predigests the meat).

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Matthew Norris Sounds very high in Histamines

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Amy Menke I'm sure it is!

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Seth Hensel I've tried it. The most charitable characterization I can come up with is that it is an acquired taste. European royalty is said to have prized meatthat was hung until it fell off the hook. I personally cannot imagine ingesting something that rotten.

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Antares Diekow If I share a fridge with disgusting houmates can I make highmeat? I do have access to raw whey.

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Sharon Peters It's hung, or aged, meat.

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Sarah McKay This may or may not be useful info, but when transitioning my dog to zc, I read an article that said once a dog or cat has been eating only animal protein for 7-10 days, the pH level of their stomach drops all the way to a 2, which creates such an acid...See More

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Amy Menke Wow! That's very interesting! It would be cool if we could test our stomach acid ph wouldn't it?

Amy Menke And you may very well be onto something there, Sarah.

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Sarah McKay Amy Menke I'm pretty sure I posted that article in Principia carnivora pets if you care to do some digging. It would be very cool if we could test our stomach pH.

Amy Menke A lowered ph would also explain why most people eventually reverse their chronic GERD/reflux issues on ZC.

Sarah McKay Yep! I had the worst heartburn before I went zc. After nearly a year of zc, I ate some low carb veggies which took me out of remission from my autoimmune arthritis, however even with the carbs my heartburn did not return. I'm back on strict zc now and the inflammation is disappearing again, thank goodness.

Bharath Rao Also explains why vegetarians are advised to add lemon juice/vinegar to their diet. Their stomach probably does not produce enough acid

Georgina Jewkes I've read this to & I've always thought the same... I thought the other long-term ZCarbers were aware of it already though so never mentioned it, but it's right. With dogs & humans having such close ties in evolution I suspect we have a few similar biological functions even though we are totally different species.

Evans Dealio Ugh. How the hell did I get food poisoning then

Jean Paul Gové From what?

Jean Paul Gové I wonder whether there's a method whereby only good bacteria get to inhabit and ferment the meat. Remember that humans, even non-carnivores, regularly eat fermented stuff - it's not the same as putrefied food. Milk can be soured, or it can be putrefied...See More

Evans Dealio Well done steak and chicken I ate at a get together. It was gross due to doneness

🤢. Apparently, I learned the hard way that only I will prepare the food I eat

It just makes me wonder how it made it to my gut. Took 1.5 weeks of my life from me. ...See More

Evans Dealio Jean Paul Gové we have been talking about high meat... fermented meat. I am starting a batch today.... but it takes time

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